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From: ktolley email@example.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:15:43 -0000
Subject: ~Celtic Well compiled bibliography with disclaimer
Creation, Rule, Right Action, Natural Order
Geographical extent of Druidism
Oral Transmission and preservation of transmission
The following is found on Perseus Digital Library:
Suetonius, Lives of the Twelve Caesars
Harpers Dictionary of Classical Antiquities from 1898
Dictionary of Greek and Roman Antiquities from 1854
Creation, Rule, Right Action, Natural Order
Death of Donn
Fire and Water
Thread 3: Mythology
From: Ellen Evert Hopman Saille333@mindspring.com
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 12:48:58 -0400
Subject: ~Celtic Well book question
Dear all: Over at Whiteoak we are looking at our basic Celtic/Druid reading list and thinking about updating it. Some are saying that Ann Ross's book Pagan Celtic Britain, for example, is now badly out of date as far as Celtic scholarship. I was wondering if any of you have any suggestions for books that are more current or opinions about the list in general. Here is what we are working with:
From: Nantonos Aedui firstname.lastname@example.org
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 16:18:11 +0200
Subject: Re: ~Celtic Well the problem with Ann Ross
In response to: Dear all: Over at Whiteoak we are still grappling with the book list. In your esteemed opinions, is Ann Ross's PAGAN CELTIC BRITAIN hopelessly out of date?Answer: That depends on the audience. For beginners, I would pick other books on the up to date front. On the other hand, it's a fairly easy read.
For the intermediate level, I would still encourage reading it, but with the caveat that the ahistorical, pan-Celtic approach is dated. There have been new finds and so on as well, but in the main it's not the material but the style of analysis which has dated.
Ross largely ignores time and distance when drawing comparisons; it's an assumption of a hermetically sealed parallel culture developing in isolation. To counter that I would strongly recommend Haywood, John; The Historical Atlas of the Celtic World. (0500051097) for a clear and visual presentation of the geographic and temporal development, and Wells, Peter S. Beyond Celts, Germans and Scythians: Archaeology and Identity in Iron Age Europe. Duckworth Debates in Archaeology Series. (0715630369) for an idea of cross-cultural interactions and the construction of cultural identity.
From Ellen: If so, which parts are problematic? Or is it still basic reading for Celtic scholars? And if it is hopeless, what is a good replacement? (We already added the Kruta et al book, The Celts from Rizzoli) thanks
Kruta et al is very good, much more detailed than Ross, but also a little indigestible due to the sheer amount of content. One would not imagine a student reading it cover to cover. On the other hand, taken section by section along with other material as part of a structured reading and discussion group over a year or so, it would work very well.
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 00:12:28 EDT
Subject: Re: ~Celtic Well book question
*The Four Ancient Books of Wales, W. F. Skene
Several of the books I mentioned above (*) are from Kessinger Publishing, which reprints late 1800's and early 1900's esoteric texts. Therefore I wouldn't say it is exactly recent research ... more like classic hard-to-find sources for your own research. Plenty of Druidic themes to be found there ... some good, some bad, and some plain silly romantic foofoo. But any good researcher shouldn't overlook these. - Allen
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 23:28:04 EDT
Subject: ~Celtic Well Re: bibliography from previous conversations
In response to: Well, I'm doing a short paper/presentation on the history of bards from the Old Irish period up until about 1650. I am also, however, looking into some side topics for my own interest. Ogham isn't my primary interest, but early Celtic music definitely is. Does that help with focus?
Melanie, Yes, that helps. I knew you were doing a paper on Irish bards, but I didn't know exactly what it was about Egan's article that interested you. On the subject of early Celtic music, may I recommend the following books and articles:Bruford, Alan 1990 Song and Recitation in Early Ireland Celtica 21, pp. 61-74 (available online)
Feehan, Fanny 1981 Suggested links between Eastern and Celtic Music. In Robert O'Driscoll (ed.), The Celtic Consciousness. New York: George Braziller; pages 333-340. 0807611360
Megaw, J.V.S.; Music Archaeology and the Ancient Celts.
Ó Madagáin, Breandán 1981 Irish Vocal Music of Lament and Syllabic Verse. In Robert O'Driscoll (ed.), The Celtic Consciousness. New York: George Braziller; pages 311-332. 0807611360
Ralls-MacLeod, Karen; Music and the Celtic Otherworld 1902930096
There are some ideas worth pursuing in the section Druids as Poets and Musicians in the book The Druids by Peter Berresford Ellis, pages 207-212. 0802837980
You may also want to examine some books on Celtic meters:
Travis, James Early Celtic Versecraft
Murphy, Gerard Early Irish Metrics
And take a look at late Irish harpers:
O'Sullivan, Donal Carolan: The Life, Times and Music of an Irish Harper
Bunting, Edward The Ancient Music of Ireland 0486413764
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Date: Sat Apr 26 2008 8:27 EDT
Subject: Nora Chadwick: Celtic Britain
Nora Chadwick's book Celtic Britain is now online on my site, at http://tinyurl.com/4cjbdl.